Jozef found this gem on YouTube. Deni Loubert, business partner and ex-wife of Dave Sim who managed their comic book company Aardvark-Vanaheim in the late 70s early 80s, talks about the old days of marketing Cerebus. These guys are the pioneers of successful self-publishing so listen and learn. In the early 1990s long before he became controversial, we were fortunate to have met Dave Sim at an OzCon in Sydney. We had just signed with Warp Graphics, and Dave was very kind to us – he was an advocate for self publishing and fiercely encouraged us to publish our own original material in the future. He said that anybody who signed with a big company and assigned their rights was a fool (his language was a little more colourful than that). We also had some phone contact with Deni while she was working in a marketing capacity at Warp, and now this interview has finally given us a face to the name and voice. The interview's long but it's worth it.